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Jack J's avatar

This is great! The satisfying dualism (shame/pride) of Charli's jealousy here is a tension that makes this song work really well. Ty for foregrounding that here because, honestly, I was caught up in the dishiness of it.

On the note of shame/pride being linked thru others' sympathy, though, I wonder if your sympathy to Taylor's current position, isolated for years on the Ticketmaster/Billboard mountaintop, would be irritating *to Taylor!* That's what I think the song is about: be careful with your sympathy because it's a fuckin' knife! It turns shame to pride and pride to shame and back again.

Maybe that's why Charli's aligning herself with the mean girls and more generally pushing against the niceness imperative: being fake nice is genuinely more emotionally damaging than being an honest hater, in Charli's telling. And now my midwestern ass is in a bind because being fake nice is my favorite way to be an honest hater

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Chris Beiser's avatar

Mr. Healing,

I believe you've missed an important element of this feud.

Later on the album, the song "Girl, So Confusing" is widely understood to be a sympathetic portrait of Lorde, who it also portrays as being kind of a bitch. The premise is that Lorde isn't a very good friend, but that this is understandable because it's hard to be a pop star. This is well documented.

But what is less commented on is that following the great Lorde-Antonoff-Taylor split of the 2010s and some poorly choreographed interviews, Lorde found herself expelled from Taylor's clique.

For Charli to write about how she's willing to stick with the trouble with Lorde is a clear attack on Taylor's fake-friend posturing—Taylor is thin-skinned and judgemental, Charli believes in being sympathetic even to people's faults.

One could even read Von Dutch as an anti-Taylor broadside in this light, although there isn't as much textual evidence.

And there's some evidence this feud has been anticipated by Taylor—what's this widely mocked line if not an adolescent attempt at channelling Charli's style?

> You know how to ball, I know Aristotle

> Brand new, full-throttle (yeah)

> Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto

Overall, I anticipate that this is a sufficiently large broadside that things escalate substantially, with Taylor taking the bait. It truly is the year of the hater.

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